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Withouth savestates

Originally posted by cyphermur9t
Originally posted by Paradox
I generally only play without savestates. Some of the notable hacks I've complete entirely without savestates are:
- Kaizo Mario 1 and 2

Really? Honestly? You've gone through the moving cave and rope climbing with floating munchers everywhere savestateless? The only way I'll believe you beat that game savestateless was if cheat codes were used.

Remember when ProtonJon played Kaizo? A load of Japanese hackers laughed at him for using savestates in such an 'easy' hack.

That suggests that hacks like Kaizo are more than possible to beat without savestates if you're good enough and are willing to sacrafice some time.
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Really you guys? I never use savestates because it completely ruins the experience of a game. It just doesn't compare to sitting in front of a TV playing an actual game and having to die and start over so many times. Savestates make everything feel synthetic. Like you're not really playing a game at all.
Well, here's what I did savestateless of note:

Luigi's adventure
Luigi's adventure 2 demo
Rise to the Challenge
ASMT (yes, including the world 8 castle, but it was annoying)
Super Mario Infinity 1 and 2
SMWCP
MKM2 (harder then it should be because the midpoint in the final castle is broken!)

So since we have some knowledgeable players in the thread I would like to ask for other hacks of similar difficulty I might enjoy. (No VIPs or ultra gimmicky hacks though, please, they're not my thing)
... Gah. While I do always try to play a "real" game without savestates no matter how much I suck at it, with SMW hacks... I really don't know, but something about playing them just makes me want to spam savestates. I can play through a good amount of the original SMW with rare deaths or sometimes without even getting hurt on a keyboard, but most hacks I've played are harder then it, and the hacks easy/easier then it tend to have level design that bores me, so...
Good fucking bye.
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Seriously I have never played any Mario hack without savestates.
i remembered when i played su.... oh wait. no i didn't
Originally posted by cozy duck
Well, here's what I did savestateless of note:

Luigi's adventure
Luigi's adventure 2 demo
Rise to the Challenge
ASMT (yes, including the world 8 castle, but it was annoying)
Super Mario Infinity 1 and 2
SMWCP
MKM2 (harder then it should be because the midpoint in the final castle is broken!)

So since we have some knowledgeable players in the thread I would like to ask for other hacks of similar difficulty I might enjoy. (No VIPs or ultra gimmicky hacks though, please, they're not my thing)



I would suggest the second reality project reloaded and the second reality project 2.
Hyper 6 Sucks. Its just mean and unfair . Not the fair Hard Difficulty, the unfair hard difficulty. Stupid game, never going to play it through.
Even not with savestates because with savestates i don't like.

Most japanese hacks are hard and sometimes unfair at the end. I know because I didn't beat any japanese hack without savestate except SMW Yeah. I often spammed savestates in VIP5 and VIP1, because they're sometimes a bit unfair, especially VIP1.
Originally posted by hypershadic
Originally posted by cozy duck
Well, here's what I did savestateless of note:

Luigi's adventure
Luigi's adventure 2 demo
Rise to the Challenge
ASMT (yes, including the world 8 castle, but it was annoying)
Super Mario Infinity 1 and 2
SMWCP
MKM2 (harder then it should be because the midpoint in the final castle is broken!)

So since we have some knowledgeable players in the thread I would like to ask for other hacks of similar difficulty I might enjoy. (No VIPs or ultra gimmicky hacks though, please, they're not my thing)



I would suggest the second reality project reloaded and the second reality project 2.


Thanks for the suggestion, but I do know and love TSRPR and TSRP2. As a matter of fact, TSRP2 is my favorite platforming game ever (including both hacks and commercial releases). That being said, while certainly challenging, they're not quite as tough as the hacks I listed before
At first I used lot of savestate when playing. Now I try to never use them, especially when I play romhacks on my Wii with the homebrew channel. But if a level very unfair, I use savestates (and after I beat the level I delete the savestate file).
The only thing I still use sometimes is fast forward because I'm not very patient. The last hack I have played using savestate was ASMWCP.
I don't remember all, but there is some game I completed savestateless:
Super Mario Universe 1&2, Pokemon Darkness, The Kid Adventures, SMW2+3: The Essence Star, Super "Mario" World, Super Mario Place, Super Mario Redux, ...
I'm beating Vip1 without saves atm, stuck on that flying level... >.<


Most of the time I just play the first worlds savestateless and when it gets to hard I'll get me some checkpoints.

Or when I see a really nice level in a hard hack I'll challenge myself to beat it again without savestates


I don't think I've played a well known, long hack completely savestateless yet aside from luigi's adventure.
I did short sones like "Every Level Iggy" and stuff but that's not really hard. :D
I think the only hack I was able to beat without savestates was a hack in the hacks section called "Five Level Hack."

Pretty pathetic, huh?
Mario's Vanilla Journey

Progress: 22/72 levels complete
Save stateless I've played
Vip 1
Vip 3
(Most of) Vip 2
(Most of) Chomp

I havn't finished Chomp but..whatever.

When I say "Most of" I mean like..if i was right there at the end of a level or something like that.
SMWCP
VIP 1-5
ASMT
A few more I can't remember too well

Sadly those are the only hacks I played, but I am working on Hyper 6, and its on video aswell.
Has anyone completed a hack like "cool or cruel" without savestates?
That's got to be impossible!
Right?
I do try it without. I just use Rewinds...but I can't get forward at the part with the springboard and the great pit of Lava.
Originally posted by MaZ18
Has anyone completed a hack like "cool or cruel" without savestates?
That's got to be impossible!
Right?


I actually beat the first level of cool or cruel without savestates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krfde9yyKlk

I would consider it the hardest Mario level I've ever beaten without tools, and it's probably pretty close to the limit of what I personally am capable of without tools.

I looked at the second level and tried it for a little bit and concluded that it is basically impossible for me to beat without savestates. This is both due to the very long level length as well as the extreme level of precision required to execute certain jumps.

I haven't really looked to much at the other levels so I don't know if they are possible without savestates although obviously levels like forky look totally insane and impossible without savestates.
You're right...
The other levels are insane.
The first level is hard enough...

Anyway, you got to be a very good player to complete it without anything. I'm "kind of good" at Mario hacking. I can complete medium hacks easy and I can perform some "hard moves" (like timing moves). But I can't walljump and keyjump without tools.
I'm currently working on The Second Reality Project Reloaded. I haven't actually beat any hacks but I've played a lot of them, all of which without save states since my computer just doesn't like them and I don't want to use them anyway. I just beat the volcano castle 3 and I died like 20 or more times lol. I am almost through the snow world in Super Mario Bros. 5 Rebirth but aside from two levels that hack is fairly easy. If I ever did let's plays of mario hacks I'd probably start there. I just wish more hacks had a "difficulty curve".
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