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Mario End Game; A Final hack I was working on...

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Wow...Koopa bros...and BM Boss...I'm amazed
Added another boss sprite:



I now need to add exactly one more boss sprite from Brutal Mario, but I'm debating which. My possible choices are:

1. A Koopaling of some sort
2. Naval Piranha (with fixed graphics)
3. That weird shapeshifter dragon thing
4. The Chomp Shark boss
5. Kracko

I need to add the sprite for the Robot Dragon/Mecha Dragon soon. I plan to make the first half the battle the already added layer 2 chase and then the final screen a proper boss battle via invisible sprite already on said screen where the dragon stops.
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New stuff:

Rainbow Road section in Milky Way Wishes. I ripped the background myself from Mario Kart Super Circuit:



Part of final level, with custom foreground:



Room used before the Mecha Dragon boss:



A sprite for a level in progress (level is test level):



Thoughts?
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Wow...Rainbow Road,Maxx and Megaman Boss Room...Is the Second One selfmaded?
Nice rainbow but it has some cutoff.

I dunno how i feel about using Maxx... is kinda cool but disapointing at the same time.
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not so NEW progress! (56.25% done) [18/32]

... Why the first level of like every hack has a shooting pipe.
Originally posted by Leo137
Nice rainbow but it has some cutoff.

I dunno how i feel about using Maxx... is kinda cool but disapointing at the same time.


Unfortunately, the rainbow tileset comes with no end tiles by default. No idea what kind of tile would make it look nice, any ideas what to draw in to improve it?

As for Marx... well, it's the most appropriate for a certain level based on Milky Way Wishes/inside of Nova.
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Diagonal slope just like in the top of the rainbow would be nice
WIP Thread

Progress:
not so NEW progress! (56.25% done) [18/32]

... Why the first level of like every hack has a shooting pipe.
Fixed the cut off at the bottom of the diagonal rainbow slopes.
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I totally love that rainbow. I alos like the green and black FG in the final level, but I still think it's a bit empty...
Well, opinions are opinions. It's a bit empty because it's meant to be based a bit off this Brutal Mario foreground, except in my own style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXQR3Y-dfbE

Except you know, a bit fancier, and has a bit fancier animation (not shown).

And Rainbow Road has been improved with the orange cut off gone and the background clouds now not being cut off in some places.
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Is that your own Marx? Or is it Carol's or Romi's?
I tested some carol's sprites and some don't work,but need patch or levelasm.
The Marx,by example,need the patch or levelasm.
Check the levelasm for details...
Worked for me. But whether carol's sprites work with or without level ASM is irrelevant to this topic.
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I see a second Brutal Mario except with the same content as the original Brutal Mario. Random mishmash for the sake of having it won't make this hack a winner in the slightest.

I can already tell that this hack will be bad.
There's not really much randomness, I just use what fits the level theme.

That's why the Kirby levels had Kirby stuff, Wario level have Wario stuff, Donkey Kong Country level has Donkey Kong Country stuff...

There's a method to the graphics and sprite choices to be honest. And trust me, of all the content, not that much is the same as from Brutal Mario, nor did I use said hack as a base. Remember that many levels used custom ripped graphics by myself, custom sprites and stuff from this site and various other places, and that I'm keeping the level design fairly secret.

God, the negativity of the staff here (and members) is why a lot of people I know left this site, like dahnamics.

Heck, for that matter, anyone who says it's just like Brutal Mario hasn't played much of the hack or seen the metric ton of stuff that's from games carol has never touched. Brutal Mario never used those bramble graphics, or the sprites in the level, or the boss from the level, or pretty much anything from the Syrup Castle level, or any Mario and Luigi graphics, or the custom overworld graphics, or many of the boss sprites, or the platform hell level graphics, or the Wario Land 2 and 4 graphics, or anything from New Super Mario Bros, or Ardy Lightfoot...
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Alright, I'll keep my mouth shut from now on. Not like my opinion really matters either way.

Originally posted by cheat-master30
Heck, for that matter, anyone who says it's just like Brutal Mario hasn't played much of the hack or seen the metric ton of stuff that's from games carol has never touched.

Guess beating the entire demo hosted on this website and playing tons of tech demos I found on YouTube and hosted on his website don't count then.
Geez he didn't say you were ripping off Brutal Mario, he said your hacks are about the same; random levels (what do DKC/Wario/Kirby levels do in a Mario hack, let alone in the same world etc), bosses that amaze newbies but are coded terribly, overly detailed and clashing graphics and custom stuff for the sake of having custom stuff.

Also when did dahnamics leave, that's great news.
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God, the negativity of the staff here (and members) is why a lot of people I know left this site, like dahnamics.


Originally posted by dahnamic's profile

Last post: 2011-02-11 05:34:48 PM
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Huh.

Also, since when is "negativity" the same thing as "offering advice as to why they think the hack is bad". I'm not in the mood for getting into the whole debate again, but bells and whistles should be going off if most people think it's the same style as Brutal Mario. It's because it is. If you want to overload your hack with clashing graphics and bosses for the "pretty much express purpose" of impressing people, then all the power to you! But expect negative comments, because they WILL come, whether you want them or not.

leod: Read over the announcements sticky again. You were the reason it was made. First and final warning.
Originally posted by S.N.N.
Originally posted by cheat-master30
God, the negativity of the staff here (and members) is why a lot of people I know left this site, like dahnamics.


Originally posted by dahnamic's profile

Last post: 2011-02-11 05:34:48 PM
Last activity: 2011-02-11 05:34:51 PM


Huh.



It's based on what he said to me in a Youtube PM. I can't share it (but maybe he can), but it involved a long chat transcript sent to him by a few members here who pretty much mocked him all the way through, and he says that he's being bullied for being associated with me.

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Good looking out. Don't quote me on this but I'm sure they hate me because I'm associated with cheatmaster-30 who they hated for a while.


Basically, Leod, sonikku, MarioEdit and some bloke called koyuki insulted his sprites, called him annoying, sad he has a bad reputation and mocked him in general.

He may have visited recently, but he barely posts any more because of this.

Such behaviour arguably shouldn't be tolerated. Heck, I haven't seen him much online recently, I wonder if people have upset him that much...

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Also, since when is "negativity" the same thing as "offering advice as to why they think the hack is bad". I'm not in the mood for getting into the whole debate again, but bells and whistles should be going off if most people think it's the same style as Brutal Mario. It's because it is.


Because most of the comments haven't even addressed the hack, just seen a few Brutal Mario elements and gone 'this hack will automatically be bad' as a result.

And bells and whistles going off... that makes no sense. Must be some... random quote from wherever, since I've never heard that phrase over here.

Google says nothing about it.

And trust me, it's not the same style. I like Wario Land far more than carol, and like Kirby and such far less. When did carol reference the Wario series?

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If you want to overload your hack with clashing graphics and bosses for the "pretty much express purpose" of impressing people, then all the power to you! But expect negative comments, because they WILL come, whether you want them or not.



Except I'm deliberately making sure the graphics don't clash. Sure, the whole game doesn't have one style, but each level sticks to a certain game's style, after something Artemendo from Walugious said:

http://www.waluigious.com/

He said the levels with one theme looked good, those without looked too clashing, so I've tried to keep all the game's graphics consistent on a per level basis.

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leod: Read over the announcements sticky again. You were the reason it was made. First and final warning.


Sigh, all these threads end up with drama...

Guess beating the entire demo hosted on this website and playing tons of tech demos I found on YouTube and hosted on his website don't count then.

I meant they hadn't played this hack as well as Brutal Mario to see that this hack isn't that much like it...

At this rate, I should probably do a level by level comparison to show it's not that much like Brutal Mario.

Geez he didn't say you were ripping off Brutal Mario, he said your hacks are about the same; random levels (what do DKC/Wario/Kirby levels do in a Mario hack, let alone in the same world etc)

The first two are set in the same world, it's simple Mario canon. I guess you've never bothered to look up what actual Mario theorists think or to check Waluigious or Mariology or Coin Heaven or one of those other sites? I see nothing implausible about the first two being in the same verse as Mario, and nor does TV Tropes:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/SuperMarioBros

See also Donkey Kong's cast, who share a loosely defined universe with Mario and company.

And I presume you don't like either Brutal Mario or Mario LD much then...

bosses that amaze newbies but are coded terribly

You haven't even seen the code for most of the Brutal Mario bosses, or some of the ones dahnamics made for this.

overly detailed and clashing graphics

Except they don't clash. Are you seriously implying the Wario Land series graphics clash?

Also when did dahnamics leave, that's great news.

Alright, I don't know what you and your jerk friends have against him, but learn some damn respect. The guy tried to code all his own bosses and sprites, and it was apparently pretty hard work.

Besides, he's a grad student, so respect your elders! Or some manners, wherever those have gone recently.



bosses that amaze newbies but are coded terribly, overly detailed and clashing graphics and custom stuff for the sake of having custom stuff.
For gaming news and Wario discussions, check out Gaming Reinvented and Wario Forums respectively.

As for Mario's Nightmare Quest? Well, it's currently on Fusion Gameworks, ROM Hacking.net or the GCN at the moment.
CM: No, I think what they are saying is that what we see resembles Brutal Mario like alot. Most of the screens here have some of the same GFX as BM, and now you seem to be using the same sprites and bosses (bosses, please use rarely... please). Sure, you may not be using in the same places or things, but at first glance, they assume you're copying Carol, when you are just hacking for the fun of it. The "randomness" is coming from using all sorts of GFX and the way it's all displayed. At one post, you have a screen shot showing off DKC GFX, and then another using some from I guess kirby, and then earlier, there's more using GFX from Seiken Densetsu 3. Just take a relook at your thread and pretend to be a different user than yourself and see what that user would think at first glance. Not trying to flame, troll, or anything negative, just trying to give advice.

Plus, I would just like to say this, IMO, please take Marx out. I understand he's cool, but don't you think it's a bit much?

And for those who are talking about Randomness, Brutal Mario has TRUE fucking randomness, Bad Level design, and ect. yet we are still want to see how it turns out. If you are going to say this about this hack too, then you might as well email Carol the same BS. Hacking is about fun and how YOU want to do it, not living up to someelse's or some hacking site's expectations.
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