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Overworld Planning: Phase II (Proposition: Page 9)

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Another big problem is that people are interpreting the broad theme given in the description and not thinking of other possibilities. "Forest" doesn't just equal "TREES TREES TREES". What's stopping us from having a forest cave, a treehouse, a swamp, a level with lots of vines, and other creative ideas?

Once again, these themes listed are broad, and if we have about 7-8 levels per world, people will easily be able to get creative with them.
Reference: Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts. A variety of worlds, but all made to look fake/mechanical/industrial-esque. As a result, the words really didn't have the charm and vibrance that BK and BT's worlds did.

I mean, we could have a level or two in each world that has an industrial theme (e.g. the flower/plant world could have a Metal Petal Path level, or something along those lines). A whole hack of industrial levels would get very boring very quickly.
This is the order of worlds i would recommend:

World 1: yea, what's already there (Grass/Industrial/Flowery hybrid (world 1))
World 2: Desert/Egyptian-styled
World 3: Fun fair, the hunted style would be interesting, and provides room for Ghost levels that aren't in that house...
World 4: Forrest/Swamp
World 5: Asian/Oriental/Eastern-styled world
World 6: Fire/Ice world
World 7: Sky world with airships + a blimp
World 8: Factory/Industrial type area
hmmmm. S.N.N., do you mean like a forest in a swamp in a cave world , or a lava bubbles world, or a bone forest ( no trees , bones), etc... ?

so :

1 Strange Grass world (maybe blue grass XD)
2 windy sand world
3 forest in a swamp in a cave world
4 Lava Bubbles World
5 Hot Snowy mountains
6 Underworld Sky World
7 Rare Rare World ( i don't know how , but it will be rare)
8 Dark lightning Robowser Factory

Thanks Ladida for this EPIC and Awesome layout!

Originally posted by S.N.N.
Originally posted by phenolatukas
You see what I'm getting at here?


But you, like others, aren't understanding the "overarching theme" idea. Not every single world needs to have industrial references. As I said in the other thread, the only real purely industrial levels in the hack could be in the factory world itself. Other than that, the rest of the levels would follow the themes of their appropriate worlds.

There is no way we could have an entire hack filled with industrial levels and have it be fun.


What I'm getting at is that all the worlds have a pretty similar theme. Most of them are all mechanical in some way, or involve metal areas and flashing lights. And there is only so much you can do with that.
I really think you guys should think about some of this more than you are. Think about the sky world for example. It could have anything sky-based, like blimps or clouds. Let your mind explore every possibility before you post something won't generate much to work with.




When the grassland/industrial was proposed, I didn't really expect it would have any major factory levels (except like .. one). I would expect that the factory world is the only one with purely industrial levels.

As for the carnival world .. well, that's still a toss up in general, actually. Some people really want it, but others don't.

So far, I think the agreed upon worlds are:

-Grassland/industry
-Forest/Swamp
-Desert Ruins of some kind (could mix the underwater map here as well)
-Sky/Floating Islands/Blimp
-Fire/Ice mix
-Factory
-Abstraction

The oriental and fairground maps right now are a real toss-up, and we need to come to a consensus on whether or not we're going to use them.
I honestly think the Fairgrounds theme is a good one to include because it can have a lot of topics. Rollercoaster rides, fun houses, giant ferris wheels, and if you want go ahead and make a water park part.

With that said,

I vote yes.




i like that , S.N.N.

anyone likes my idea?

1 Strange Grass world (maybe blue grass XD)
2 windy sand world
3 forest in a swamp in a cave world
4 Lava Bubbles World
5 Hot Snowy mountains
6 Underworld Sky World
7 Rare Rare World/Faairgrounds ( i don't know how , but it will be rare)
8 Dark lightning Robowser Factory

Thanks Ladida for this EPIC and Awesome layout!

Asian world is still in my opinion another way to say Grassland, just decorated differently, which you can still do as a normal grassland level, so I'm going with no on Asian world.

And as for the fairgrounds, that can also be made into its own level on practically any map. So no.

Something Not Related:S.N.N., where is your avatar from? It's been bugging me lately for some reason...
I'm personally in favor of the "Different 'worlds' in worlds."

Like S.N.N. said, a forest cave/swamp/treehouse seems like a pretty cool idea. Sculpting overworld ideas for a collaborative hack is hard, especially when everyone has different ideas. So, here we go:

1: Grassland/Industry --> 2: Ocean/reef OR 3: Cave-ish place --> 4: Desert/Ruins/Pyramids --> 5: Fire/Ice (a la FreezeFlame) --> 6: Sky/Airship OR 7: Forest --> 8: Main Factory --> E: Abstract

Of course, there could always be the possibility of 2 enterances to the Extra world. 1 from World 5, and one from World 8. You would have to beat the one from World 8 to go anywhere from World 5.

Now on to the greater ideas. World abstracts.

World 1 abstracts: Mossy Cave, Tallish Mountain
World 2 abstracts: Tropical Island, Ocean Depth
World 3 abstracts: Sun-lit area (small plants/trees), Climb out of the Cave
World 4 abstracts: Oasis, Molten Sand or something
World 5 abstracts: Clash (Fire&ice in same part of a level)
World 6 abstracts: Acid clouds
World 7 abstracts: Forest cave, treehouse etc.
World 8 abstracts: happy rainbow land to the magical pixie playhouse

Abstract world doesn't really need abstracts.
I dunno, I think I came up with some good ideas. :/

8 ninjas made this post redundant.
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Fairgrounds is, IMO, limiting

Never the less, I'm voting yes for it, for the only reason that it is interesting
I think SNN's is the best. And I don't wanna change it...
I vote No on the fairground.
Oriental world isn't just grassland, I thought SNN + others made that clear.

Anyways, I vote YES for both an Oriental submap and a Fairgrounds map. Already expressed my opinion for oriental, and a fairgrounds would be really interesting to create levels for.

Also, I agree that SNN's list is best, adding in the oriental and fairgrounds.
why no one give me his/her opinion of my "alternative world set"???

oh , and i also vote no for fairground

Thanks Ladida for this EPIC and Awesome layout!

Also in favor of both fairgrounds and Oriental, more so the fairgrounds.
Originally posted by Ladida
Oriental world isn't just grassland, I thought SNN + others made that clear.

They made it clear that it is infact a grassland, but it can also have, GARSH, SNOWY MOUNTAINS!!!

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Also in favor of both. You can get a good amount of use from both types of world themes if you put the effort into it.

Why should we remove the oriental and fairgrounds! Those ideas can be very extensive. Especially the oriental idea (why is it that people don't understand that?). For the fairgrounds, it doesn't have to be above ground, we could have a "minecart" level, a subterranean place that controls the fair, all of these possible level schemes will be wasted if we remove those two.

I vote yes for both.
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