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Originally posted by Fakescaper
Actually, I'm making a fully automatic ROM. You just open the game in Zsnes and watch. It will automatically go through the intro for you, go though the welcome message, move through the overworld, and enter levels.

That's what I meant, should have been more descriptive I suppose.
Plus I'm not even touching the ram addresses for Mario's x/y speed or position.
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THAT WAS MY OTHER IDEA! At least if you are going to do it in the way I believe you are, which seems to be the only way to me, but I guess it's possible that you figured out another way.
Well I won't spoil it for now.

Heck it's not even really going to be an "auto"

If I can I'll even avoid custom blocks and sprites (at least ones that are meant to move you.)
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yh i see the unfairness in a particapant being a judge xD

but yh its soo hard not to use the boost blocks :'(
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Well you still can use them you know.
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Since I proposed that, I'll clear it up. You CAN use custom things that affect gameplay, HuFlungDu. You get bonus points if you don't.

And yes, ExGFX can be bonus points if it actually fits. Any objections to this?

(honestly, we need a new thread with mockingod or me having the first post so someone who is actually doing something can edit the post |-O)

EDIT: Another idea (surprised nobody thought of this) but the length of the level counts. You could make Mario start at the goal and that would technically be an automatic level. Set the timer to FFF, and you get 1 point for every 5 game seconds. Any objections?

Also, MG, I don't think we should do the enter level at start of game thing, because if I remember right, there's some kind of patch or hex edit that simply does that. (unless I read it in the removal log, in which case it's not hosted, so I might be talking nonsense)

EDIT #2: I love how everyone thinks I made the userbar. XD
Originally posted by 2technogeeks


Also, MG, I don't think we should do the enter level at start of game thing, because if I remember right, there's some kind of patch or hex edit that simply does that. (unless I read it in the removal log, in which case it's not hosted, so I might be talking nonsense)


Gaah! makes my stomach turn when you tell me i have to edits codes :) and also cant that just be bonus points because the more people we get (i will probably do the auto OW thing xD) the more interesting the contest shall be and more interesting for the judges

also, i agree make a new thread 2tech coz u are alot more active than this DODODODODODODODODODODODO (x50) guy

so it would b nice if sum1 could nuke this one so we dont get any confusion between threads...?

EDIT: D: u made a banner for it... my photoshop and imagready are broken can someone make a participant banner (i call userbars banners :/)... it would help greatly thanks :)
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(honestly, we need a new thread with mockingod or me having the first post so someone who is actually doing something can edit the post )

I should get first post lol. I pretty much saved the thread sort of.



EDIT: Another idea (surprised nobody thought of this) but the length of the level counts. You could make Mario start at the goal and that would technically be an automatic level. Set the timer to FFF, and you get 1 point for every 5 game seconds. Any objections?


I do not object. Totally do this. In fact if you do, I'll even make two separate entries, and I guarantee one will come within a week or two.


Also does anyone think I should make a new thread for this since I'm a bit more organized?
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You screwed up the quote. :P

Anyways, DODODO had a chat with me, and he has decided that there will be no host, and he's just going to be a judge, with all of the judges making up rules. (he put something like that in the first post)

FS, you did kind of save the thread (yeah, you pretty much did), but it wouldn't make much sense having someone who is only participating have the first post. See what I'm saying?
Not really. Who says you can't organize a contest and participate in it. As long as you aren't also a judge it's fine.
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i am no longer participating since my rom corrupt and i deleted my back up to re-copy my rom,

i will happily be a judge,
i just need to know who to pm coz DODODODO seems to no longer be the host
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Originally posted by OGS93
i am no longer participating since my rom corrupt and i deleted my back up to re-copy my rom,

i will happily be a judge,
i just need to know who to pm coz DODODODO seems to no longer be the host


He's no longer the host, but he still decides who's a judge. Other than that, his powers are equal to that of a judge's.
Originally posted by 2technogeeks
Originally posted by OGS93
i am no longer participating since my rom corrupt and i deleted my back up to re-copy my rom,

i will happily be a judge,
i just need to know who to pm coz DODODODO seems to no longer be the host


He's no longer the host, but he still decides who's a judge. Other than that, his powers are equal to that of a judge's.


aha, ok thanks :)
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Originally posted by Fakescaper
You will be judged on a point system. (xx/xx points)


How many points is "xx"?


Originally posted by Fakescaper
Details:
You only have to make one level, but you get a nice amount of bonus points if you make it a whole hack (4 levels at least).


I don't really think this should be based by how many levels there are, but by the length of the levels. I could make four super-short levels in no time.


Originally posted by Fakescaper
Bonus Point Possibilities:
The auto actually working


This should not give you bonus points.


Originally posted by Fakescaper
Exceptions:
If you ABSOLUTELY have to have a message box and/or it's funny enough, you may only have at most 2 message blocks that play messages out your four levels.

...

Notice that we said message BLOCKS. If you use an automessage, and this includes yoshi message, you're disqualified. You might want to use a patch or something to disable it for yoshi or at least plan around it.


Two questions here:

1) Would a message block count if it doesn't play messages?
2) Would a message block count if you made it so that the message goes away after a short period of time without you having to press a button?



Originally posted by Fakescaper
Other:
Having no custom things that effect gameplay (Hint: Custom music and Exgfx do not effect gameplay, nor does making your own map16 stuff. However custom blocks and custom sprites do affect gameplay. Normal SMW sprites don't. Additional ASM does.)


This seems to imply that submissions can't use anything that effects gameplay at all.


Originally posted by Fakescaper
Exception: It is ok to effect gameplay on the overworld and you might even be awarded (about 3) bonus points if you can effect gameplay that way.
Same thing for any other time during the game that is not in a level. You could be awarded EXTREME bonus points (ok it's just 4).


Okay, I have a problem here. Editing the overworld should not effect your score, as this is an autoplay level contest.



Seriously, this contest needs a new set of rules, and a new "host".
1) There is no host anymore. |-O
2) I already stated that you get 1 point for every five game seconds, which is length.
3) Both of your Message questions are okay to do.
4) No custom things that affect gameplay is BONUS points! How many times must I repeat myself?
5) For overworld editing, it means that if you have an OW custom sprite that takes you into the level, that makes it automatic, so you get bonus points for an automatic OW. We will NOT be judging how good the OW looks (as long as you can actually enter the level)
Originally posted by Fakescaper
You will be judged on a point system. (xx/xx points)


How many points is "xx"?

Depends on the person judging.

Originally posted by Fakescaper
Details:
You only have to make one level, but you get a nice amount of bonus points if you make it a whole hack (4 levels at least).


I don't really think this should be based by how many levels there are, but by the length of the levels. I could make four super-short levels in no time.

Length is another category, I'll add it later.

Originally posted by Fakescaper
Bonus Point Possibilities:
The auto actually working


This should not give you bonus points.

Right. I'll change that to "The auto being 'fluid'"
Aka it isn't something stupid like running in a sraight line for a bunch of screens.

Originally posted by Fakescaper
Exceptions:
If you ABSOLUTELY have to have a message box and/or it's funny enough, you may only have at most 2 message blocks that play messages out your four levels.

...

Notice that we said message BLOCKS. If you use an automessage, and this includes yoshi message, you're disqualified. You might want to use a patch or something to disable it for yoshi or at least plan around it.


Two questions here:

1) Would a message block count if it doesn't play messages?

Yes

2) Would a message block count if you made it so that the message goes away after a short period of time without you having to press a button?

No, but if you don't make it clear that that happens or that they don't really need to press buttons, it does.

Originally posted by Fakescaper
Other:
Having no custom things that effect gameplay (Hint: Custom music and Exgfx do not effect gameplay, nor does making your own map16 stuff. However custom blocks and custom sprites do affect gameplay. Normal SMW sprites don't. Additional ASM does.)


This seems to imply that submissions can't use anything that effects gameplay at all.

No you still can, but since it'd be harder to do stuff without this stuff, it might impress judges more.

Originally posted by Fakescaper
Exception: It is ok to effect gameplay on the overworld and you might even be awarded (about 3) bonus points if you can effect gameplay that way.
Same thing for any other time during the game that is not in a level. You could be awarded EXTREME bonus points (ok it's just 4).


Okay, I have a problem here. Editing the overworld should not effect your score, as this is an autoplay level contest.

What it means is, if you can make it so you don't even need to press buttons on the overworld to navigate it, that could help your score.
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Originally posted by Fakescaper
Originally posted by Fakescaper
You will be judged on a point system. (xx/xx points)


How many points is "xx"?

Depends on the person judging.


This shouldn't depend on the person judging. You've given specific point values for some of the bonuses, and having a few bonus points might be better depending on whether the judge judges on, say, a 20 point scale, than a 100 point scale.



Originally posted by Fakescaper
Originally posted by Fakescaper
Exceptions:
If you ABSOLUTELY have to have a message box and/or it's funny enough, you may only have at most 2 message blocks that play messages out your four levels.

...

Notice that we said message BLOCKS. If you use an automessage, and this includes yoshi message, you're disqualified. You might want to use a patch or something to disable it for yoshi or at least plan around it.


Two questions here:

1) Would a message block count if it doesn't play messages?

Yes


Why?


Originally posted by TRS
Originally posted by Fakescaper



Originally posted by Fakescaper
Originally posted by Fakescaper
Exceptions:
If you ABSOLUTELY have to have a message box and/or it's funny enough, you may only have at most 2 message blocks that play messages out your four levels.

...

Notice that we said message BLOCKS. If you use an automessage, and this includes yoshi message, you're disqualified. You might want to use a patch or something to disable it for yoshi or at least plan around it.


Two questions here:

1) Would a message block count if it doesn't play messages?

Yes


Why?




haha that sounded like a very "entrapping" first question, why dont you be the host you seem to be really good with this stuff, or be a head judge :/ ?
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Fakescaper isn't even a judge. |-O

And we're not going to have a max amount of points. We'll just give points that it deserves.