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Super Mario World Hacks 201 - Prospective Project

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Super Mario World Hacks 101 was a project I was thrilled to do, no matter how silly the original spark was. The project, though, sparked ambition for more.

This project, Super Mario World Hacks 201 (link to forum,) is going to be one I, alone cannot do. I intend to have this be a team project in which people can sign up to help. It may be a while before I get it in gear, though, since I won't get to learn much new stuff until summer.

Early alpha stages, currently.

I want to make 201 an educational hack about how to use more advanced things (not necessarily TOO MUCH more advanced, but it can get up to as advanced as the project goes) such as samples for songs, fancy ASM, ExGFX, and other gimmicks.

I am pretty sure I can help do a level or two, I can write lessons for messageboxes/signs/NPCs, and I can do ExGFX and palettes.

This project is scheduled to gear up in June, but until then, I plan on doing some framework, and some team building, which I'll figure out how to set up somehow.

So far known people:
Me
Atma (Chief Tunes Maker)
Chdata (ASM)
Ixtab (ASM)
Midna
K3fka
Huflungdu
Imamelia
Lynnes (Shiny Overworld Artiste)
reghrhre (Cool Stuff Maker)
Magmar
MSAhm3d59113
Tornado

May be part:
ChaoticFox (Best of intentions)
Neutron (Need to see some works)
Boredman (Need to see some works)
Merident (Need to see some works)

Lessons

101 Leftovers:
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When making a new level, start by pressing CTRL and DEL. That way the original level is completely cleared.
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Be careful not to put too many sprites on a screen. This can either cause lag, or not spawn all sprites.


Other:

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Keep in mind that a decision to make is whether the game will be a Mario game, or just a game on the Mario engine. Too much ASM can lose that identity.



To clarify: I may not use everyone's skills as far as ASM, or whatever if too many people want to help, but keep in mind that lesson suggestions may still be a good way to help!Super Mario World Hacks 101
I can maybe make vanilla palettes...
1) In team hacks, you should select your team early.
2) Only doing a level or two is not enough for a team leader.

And why do you need a team for a tutorial hack?
Originally posted by 2technogeeks
1) In team hacks, you should select your team early.
2) Only doing a level or two is not enough for a team leader.

And why do you need a team for a tutorial hack?


Oh, not just a level or two, I'd probably do quite a few levels, palettes, graphics, and other bits and pieces, and I'd probably orchestrate putting the bits together.

And as for why, I think that a single person's recommendations are limited, whereas a group would know a lot more dos and don'ts than I, alone, would.Super Mario World Hacks 101
I can do any of the asm related stuff. (read: can I join?)

Originally posted by 2technogeeks
1) In team hacks, you should select your team early.
2) Only doing a level or two is not enough for a team leader.

And why do you need a team for a tutorial hack?


Hacks 101 was mostly about the basics, things that any experienced hacker should know. 201 is most likely going to be focused on ASM and things like Terra Stripe for example.

Also, I think tails misinterpreted what I meant when I said to make this thread.
I'm still a bit scatterbrained right now between school, release of 101, and ambition, so I'll let Atma clarify what's up with this thread.Super Mario World Hacks 101
Thanks Tails.

Okay, basically we're asking people what they want to see in Hacks 201. Since this is a hack based on showing the community what can be done in SMW, we want to know what our community wants to see. 201 will be more focused on what are often seen in more famed hacks. HDMA, Custom Sprites, Terra Stripe, and LevelASM will all make an appearance hopefully.

And a list of things I've thought for 201:

HDMA & LevelASM
Generators in LevelASM
Brightness Gradients
Color Gradients
Parallax

Level Design
ExAnimation
Mushroom Only Blocks
Usually, I get too caught up in my own stuff to help with team hacks, but I'll do my best to help out with this project.
Originally posted by Atma
Mushroom Only Blocks


That can be done vanilla style. REALLY EASILY. Just take a question/turn block on the map16 and change it to behave like tile 16B.
Originally posted by Zildjian
Originally posted by Atma
Mushroom Only Blocks


That can be done vanilla style. REALLY EASILY. Just take a question/turn block on the map16 and change it to behave like tile 16B.


I actually told Atma that in the chat just a few seconds ago XDSuper Mario World Hacks 101
I've noticed that you need some proof of my vanilla palette skills, so I've taken the time to create some custom palettes for some of the original SMW levels. Here you go.

Level 105
Level 018
Level 11A

(large images)
Not bad. I don't really like the Ghost Ship palette, though.
They're nice, especially the last one, but I might recommend you lower the saturation on them to some extent, bright palettes can overwhelm.Super Mario World Hacks 101
Well, those aren't exactly the brightest colors in the world, so there's not really much of a way to desaturate them exactly... and in the ghost ship palette especially I tried to avoid bright colors (though, in retrospect, the logs do clash a lot).

Edit: Spray Fish. Is it me, or does he look kind of... indecent?
CHData

Chdata


Also go check in the music thread of ASMT.
I own a community of TF2 servers!

ASMT - A new revolutionary ASM system, aka 65c816 ASseMbly Thing
SMWCP - SMW Central Presents a Product- tion long name

frog

http://esolangs.org/wiki/MarioLANG
I'd like to help, I have experience in really anything, especially
overworld design. But I'm also good at palletes, if you need any.
Originally posted by Lynnes
I'd like to help, I have experience in really anything, especially
overworld design. But I'm also good at palletes, if you need any.


I know you're qualified :P You're the one who's gonna beat me in the Vanilla Contest XD

Anyway... we definitely need an overworld... and eventing kills my spirit... so by all means!Super Mario World Hacks 101
I'm pretty good at overworlds, here's a few if you want proof.

OW 1
OW 2
OW 3 <---Ignore white outline
You and Lynnes can work that out/work together :OSuper Mario World Hacks 101

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