Originally posted by KP9000There's a ton of work to do. It's been said multiple times, and I'd like to respectfully remind everyone who runs this (especially Vitor) that arguably half of the work has already been done. The submissions that have been submitted (a lot of them, probably not all) have been worked on by a fairly large group of authors and that is something that collab hack coordinators would absolutely KILL for. The talk of killing VLDCX this year is not only heart-wrenching and cringeworthy, it's also a terrible move by those who run it regardless of the situation. All of the passion and time already went into the submissions this year. Regardless of the bullshit that Vitor pulled, (most) people still put a lot of work into it. Vitor wasn't the only one who committed to this whole contest, and to suggest that it be scrapped (dropping everyone else's levels and hard work) is going down the same road that Vitor trod and letting all the authors and staff down.
There's been 0 talk or mention about dropping anything regarding the contest. Levels are still getting judged and ranked as ever (and nudge nudge really soon).
Originally posted by KP9000I suggest that VLDCX be postponed this year and pushed to next year's release, then taking a complete break from VLDC for the time being. Just put an end to it, indefinitely, until some more (reliable) parties can come together to make it happen again. The 'months of work' that need to be done can be done. I also suggest that only the top 100 levels should be used. That would help with the work load as well as dual-ROM non-issue. The number of levels included could be changed depending on the judge results (and possibly other factors) which leads me to my next suggestion: Release judge results when they are finished and when a plan to bring VLDCX comes to fruition. I also think a fancy-shmancy overworld is not necessary at this point. The most basic one will suffice. The meat of this contest is the levels, and that's what should be focused on.
We have literally proposed the best-of collab as an alternative from the get-go, so please stop acting like we just came in here and were like "VLDCX is closed go home" lol
I don't know how judge results are even related to the collab, so I'll just say no to delaying them. Judge results will be announced when they are finished, regardless of anything else, so as to wrap up the contest portion of VLDCX. There's no reason to tie in the collab with the contest results somehow (not that I'm even sure of what you meant).
Originally posted by KP9000I also want to emphasize the need for community input. There should be a "VLDCX situation" thread where things are laid out for the general user base to see, along with a plan or two (or more) on how to move forward with VLDCX. This is a community driven event, and it should have direct input with a specific thread for the event. I have a dog in this fight. So do 179-ish other people. I poured all the creativity and passion into this one level for this contest and I've got many mixed feelings about what has happened with VLDCX. I doubt I'm alone on this.
That's what this announcement was for, the original announcement (and idol's post a few pages after to answer some stuff) specifically asked people to give their input on how we should handle it.
Your issue seems to be the complete cutting of the full collab option, which as you should be able to have deduce (assuming you skimmed over the past few pages of posts, cause it was mentioned explicitly a few times there) was cut because it just isn't an option for us to handle.
We aren't just lamenting all the work for work's sake, we legitimately just don't have the time and will to spend another year on constructing this collab, costing us more and more time we could've spent hosting other contests (which VLDCX has already eaten up a bunch of without even involving the collab portion) and other projects.
Originally posted by KP9000I recommend that if you're willing to consider letting Vitor back in to help, it should be unanimously decided that the capacity in which he does so is such that if he provides nothing at all it doesn't hinder the project. His involvement should be designated as such that the only thing he is capable of doing is helping. Seeing as he's let people down a couple of times now, in various circumstances, considering a third time should be done with extreme caution.
This proposal in particular isn't possible. If we go with the full collab, we would 100% require Vitor (or anyone else who knows enough about the SA-1 to pull it off) so him not doing something would mean a complete standstill. If we don't do the full collab, Vitor isn't willing to help.
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