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Unrelated question: Who decides which levels end up in what overworld map in the final hack? I know the top 10 obviously end up in the best world and the worst levels in the worst world (although that didn't seem to be the case in the vldc9 rom?), but what about the others? Do the judges also give their opinion on the fitting world or is that something the overworld creators have to come up with?
Likely the former, from what I know judges are taking notes of each level's visual theme for that purpose.
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Originally posted by leod
Likely the former, from what I know judges are taking notes of each level's visual theme for that purpose.


Can it be changed? I have a feeling that I'll be put in abstract, although my level would probably fit better in grassland, for example.
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Why do you want it changed if we haven't come up with it yet? lol
And why would you want to change it anyway, it doesn't matter all that much. I mean, if you have a special request for a world to your level, I suppose we can try to fulfill it.

Last year I did the separation on my own, but this year we have a lot of levels and a pretty active judge team so I suppose it'll be a collaborated work. Unless the contest allows for freedom, we aren't really sure how it's gonna work yet (or at least I don't know what Vitor's plans are).
It's easily the best thing I've done
So why the empty numb?
It definitely won't allow for freedom. All levels in the same world have to be in the same ROM (since we are using multiple SA-1 ROMs), so they can't just be switched per-overworld.
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I think we should make sure not to restrict creativity by trying to adhere too strongly to level themes, as it definitely adds to the uniqueness of, say, grassland world if there's some really interestingly themed levels in it. I know not all worlds are gonna be "equal", but I don't think it's a good idea to have everyone just rushing through the "boring" worlds to get to the more "interesting" ones. Obviously a level should be interesting based on its design and not its theme or atmosphere, but you get what I mean.

Simply put, not every "weird" level has to be abstract, is what I'm saying. For instance, fabulatory could totally have been in grassland world, and the overworld sprite makers could have made some cool overworld landmark to indicate it's unique nature.

I also wanna mention that I thought it was so cool that my level, and lots of other levels, had their own unique sprite or graphic on the overworld in vldc9. It makes the designer feel even better about their level being in the collab. I also hope that, just like last year, that uniqueness is carried on in all kinds of levels, regardless of their placement.

Also, it would be really interesting to see 12 or 15 entries in best and worst world this year, which I know was already mentioned but yeah. I have high hopes for best world placement as well; we've got some really strong judges and it's always a good feeling when you finish the hack strong by enjoying best world the most out of the whole hack.
Originally posted by GbreezeSunset
I know not all worlds are gonna be "equal"


All worlds are equal, but some worlds are more equal than others

also vldc9 grass world was pretty unassuming yeah
Originally posted by leod
It definitely won't allow for freedom. All levels in the same world have to be in the same ROM (since we are using multiple SA-1 ROMs), so they can't just be switched per-overworld.


Guess that explains the loading times when you walk between worlds in the vldc9 rom.
I was mostly confused by the fact that some low ranking levels didn't end up in worst world back then (I already looked up why that was the case).

So the judges determine in what world each level belongs, while the ow creators then design a world based on those restrictions.
Originally posted by brickartsteven
Guess that explains the loading times when you walk between worlds in the vldc9 rom.

Actually that's due to the Audio RAM using that "loading" time to load the samples the song of that certain submap would use.
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to hear birds and see none.
Wait was it really just for the samples? I thought it was for the song itself.
Does that mean that theoretically, if every OW song used the same sampled it'd be seamless?
ask me if i give a f*ck...
Well it's a combination of the two. AMK is coded weirdly so it loads the song AND the samples when it transitions from one to another, even if it means it literally reloads the exact same samples again.
aka we're gonna keep having freezes even if every song is unsampled until we get a new addmusic :(
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to hear birds and see none.
Im kind of disappointed that the judges played the crapped up versions of my level :( its fault on my end

I hope no one else struggled with their level. I mostly struggled with level design.

Interesting to see the top 10
I have an idea, but it looks like weird:

What do you think about a SMW Custom Boss in a vanilla hack in the World X?
You can use original SMW graphics.
It can be a reznor, Koopaling, Dino Rhino or a chargin chuck.

The previous VLDC (VLDC9) have OW sprites, why not a custom boss in the World X?
What do you think about my idea?
The entire point of VLDC is to not allow custom blocks or sprites, so nope.
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where are the Streams, lolyoshi!
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In his Twitch Channel. He's been doing other streams lately, such as streaming a speedrun of JUMP.
Just so you know, I'm very active on the site anymore like I was before; I'm mainly on Discord now.
Originally posted by Falconpunch
In his Twitch Channel.

Incredible.
It's easily the best thing I've done
So why the empty numb?

yeah if it wasn't clear I'm referring solely to the vldc streams. I trust that he'll post in here when another of those is going down
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Originally posted by Ivy
yeah if it wasn't clear I'm referring solely to the vldc streams. I trust that he'll post in here when another of those is going down


Don't worry, he will. I had this same concern, and checked his channel to see if he did any other VLDC streams, and he didn't.
Just so you know, I'm very active on the site anymore like I was before; I'm mainly on Discord now.
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