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CHOCOLATE LEVEL DESIGN CONTEST 2016 - Discussion

#wario{:peace:} I'm pretty sure the results will be out tomorrow, so... (if not, then oops)
I was wondering, when was there a vote to extend the deadline for judging.
I wonder what a HFD opcode would do in ASM...
It could take up to a week longer from now, but not more. Ideally less.
The deadline was originally today, but I pushed it back a bit further because of unforeseen circumstances, so yeah, complain to me about it.



That being said, I'm not sure why you'd think there would be a vote, considering that's kinda entirely up to management anyway. Or, more accurately because I'm not unable to read between the lines, why you're being passive aggressive about it.
Organize your own contest if you want absolute control over it! That's an actual suggestion btw, not supposed to be mean.
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Originally posted by leod
complain to me about it.

just kidding i stopped caring about this contest a year ago

ask me if i give a f*ck...
Originally posted by TLMB
I was wondering, when was there a vote to extend the deadline for judging.


There wasn't.

At least, this is the first time I've heard of this.
Originally posted by leod
That being said, I'm not sure why you'd think there would be a vote, considering that's kinda entirely up to management anyway. Or, more accurately because I'm not unable to read between the lines, why you're being passive aggressive about it.
Organize your own contest if you want absolute control over it! That's an actual suggestion btw, not supposed to be mean.

Not to pull on strings here, because I'm not the manager of this contest, but neither are you. From what I've heard, you forced Nimono to extend the deadline without much discussion from his part. We, the judges including Impetus, put down a deadline which was the 14th. When this wasn't reached we gave Impetus two more days since she said she only had to do a couple more levels. Now, as far as I can see, Impetus seems to have some serious real life issues standing in her way, which I feel sorry for. From a management point of view, giving such an extension and then not having it done should have been the tipping point of just releasing the results the way they are. A judge has to focus on more important matters, so be it. Yet here we are waiting another week, because a couple of staff members decided to stick up and decide this on their own without discussing with the people who are actually responsible for these results! I can understand that to the contestants this look very weird and that from a managing point of view this is very frustrating. So those are my complaints to you.
Sorry for the confusion that is going on.

Impetus did indeed only have until last weekend to finish, and the ultimate deadline Nimono and I gave her was yesterday. However leod stepped in and spoke first to Nimono and then to me about Imp's real life constraints and how she's almost done and that her feedback is extremely detailed to go to waste, so he convinced me to give her another week. I told Nim about this and he seemed to agree. I thought he did want me to step in, as we had been talking about this situation. I wasn't made aware that he felt I and leod were taking his contest over, and neither did leod as far as I'm concerned. Nimono and I have this sorted out now.
With that said, I take full responsibility for the extension that was given to Impetus - after all, leod has no power over decisions in regards to contest management, but I do. I apologise for how long I am making those results take to be released, but seeing as in general people hadn't been complaining despite the contest ending over a month ago, I thought it was fair to give Impetus a last chance. This won't be pushed over any longer.
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So why the empty numb?
Originally posted by Torchkas
Not to pull on strings here, because I'm not the manager of this contest, but neither are you. From what I've heard, you forced Nimono to extend the deadline without much discussion from his part. We, the judges including Impetus, put down a deadline which was the 14th. When this wasn't reached we gave Impetus two more days since she said she only had to do a couple more levels. Now, as far as I can see, Impetus seems to have some serious real life issues standing in her way, which I feel sorry for. From a management point of view, giving such an extension and then not having it done should have been the tipping point of just releasing the results the way they are. A judge has to focus on more important matters, so be it. Yet here we are waiting another week, because a couple of staff members decided to stick up and decide this on their own without discussing with the people who are actually responsible for these results! I can understand that to the contestants this look very weird and that from a managing point of view this is very frustrating. So those are my complaints to you.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, I TOLD YOU ALREADY THAT I WAS MISTAKEN THAT IT WAS LEOD THAT DID IT. :C
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dam cant we just have 1 contest where things to go awry

e: I'd rather wait for Imp because I trust and value her feedback a lot and would love to see what she thinks of the levels
ask me if i give a f*ck...
Impetus wrote a lot from what little I saw, so waiting just a little longer for her to finish is a good idea.

That said, next time can you inform the judges beforehand? I shouldn't have to find out about this via a random post.
yeah i actually came back to ask that if a delay like this happen in the future, can it just be something you let everybody know? I mean I cant really think of a legitimate reason to not inform people of a delay, seeing as it's going to happen anyways it just helps people understand what's going on. It didn't even have to be specific. Just "the results are being delayed due to unforeseen circumstances, but they'll be here soon." Just letting the thread go dead and assuming people forgot about it (or stopped caring) (or are patient) isn't really the way these things should go.
I feel like it's pretty obvious to anybody out there that #wario{:U} was me asking where the results were. Jokingly, but still valid. So the fact that we got the runaround until leod acknowledged that yes there is a delay (which we kind of assumed/hoped at this point) and then Koopster came in to actually tell us what happened (thank you Koopster!) is a little frustrating, mostly because it's unnecessary. Communication is key, and incredibly easy!


Just my emotionally-charged opinions on this issue right now. I'm going to bed.
ask me if i give a f*ck...
Originally posted by Hobz
yeah i actually came back to ask that if a delay like this happen in the future, can it just be something you let everybody know? I mean I cant really think of a legitimate reason to not inform people of a delay, seeing as it's going to happen anyways it just helps people understand what's going on. It didn't even have to be specific. Just "the results are being delayed due to unforeseen circumstances, but they'll be here soon." Just letting the thread go dead and assuming people forgot about it (or stopped caring) (or are patient) isn't really the way these things should go.
I feel like it's pretty obvious to anybody out there that #wario{:U} was me asking where the results were. Jokingly, but still valid. So the fact that we got the runaround until leod acknowledged that yes there is a delay (which we kind of assumed/hoped at this point) and then Koopster came in to actually tell us what happened (thank you Koopster!) is a little frustrating, mostly because it's unnecessary. Communication is key, and incredibly easy!


Just my emotionally-charged opinions on this issue right now. I'm going to bed.

well, to be fair, I only found out about the delay myself not all that long before you guys did

as for not saying anything before you said "HEY", there wasn't a delay at that time, so there really wasn't anything to say other than "SORRY GUYS, STILL NOT YET, STILL WAITING ON IMPETUS", which would eventually get on your nerves, AND serve to stress Impetus even more. I really didn't think that would've been worth it.
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Hey man, the results are coming out eventually so I see no terrible crime. Whenever they're out, they're out. hopefullysoonthough...
I haven't seen Impetus much this week...

I really want to see her comments on our levels though.
If I understood correctly, scores are being finalized and checked out (post-judging walkthrough to make sure everything's 👌👌)
ask me if i give a f*ck...
I'm sorry, its likely not all levels will have comments from me when the results are released =c

I'll still be working on writing them up.