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PRISM : The US are spying on the world's internet use

Link to some of the stories about this fiasco;

Obama has said that this does not apply to U.S. citizens and it does not apply to people living the United States. Which in my opinion makes this whole thing even more unsettling as it means that the US government isn't even concerned about any other nations privacy.

And if your a US citizen, you should still be concerned if you value your privacy as Gizmondo is saying that US citizens do get caught in the filter they put in place but the leaked PowerPoint that exposed Prism has said that it's "nothing to worry about"

I don't know about you but I am very worried.
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Originally posted by Sokobansolver
If this has been ongoing, why even consider CISPA in the first place?

the nsa, terrifyingly, acts independent of most other government agencies. CISPA would provide a legal groundwork for what PRISM already does
Behold, have a link to some stupid people!

Because governments are never corrupt and/or incompetent, are they.
Originally posted by Kaijyuu

It pains me that I used to say the same things...

Originally posted by Kaijyuu
Because governments are never corrupt and/or incompetent, are they.

Which is what makes it so weird that those people are usually Republicans. You don't trust the government to hand out foodstamps but you trust them to monitor all communication without warrants and detain people indefinitely without a trial?
It may or may not be the same people. People coalesce under the same banner like that so as to add power to a few ideas most of them share. The remaining that they disagree about are considered necessary sacrifices or unimportant in comparison.

Assuming they're acting logically, of course. Some people are just stupid and don't realize/care that they're advocating mutually exclusive things.
I'm a relatively privacy-conscious person living in the U.S. Emphasis on relatively.
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I'm starting to worry about the government spying on us, especially because there are some particularly nasty things they could do to me i they found out what I do. I don't know how many of the people here are EFFites/Stallmans/Falkvinges aka how familiar you are with this subject.
But does anyone know the best way to protect against govs spying on:
email?
- Run my own SMTP server. (Cons: My ISP might block it)
- Wait for StartMail. (Cons: The government *could* still ask it to hand over information)
- Use Tormail. (Cons: no guarantee of security, if they're evil, they might release all my emails or try to identify me based on what I say)

web activity?
- Do I need to use Tor for nearly everything to avoid government surveillance and/or packet-mining for suspicious people who seem to be challenging the copyright cartel? (somewhat inconvenient)

computer seizures?
- Should I use Truecrypt for everything? Do I need to? (Is the government likely to use ransomware? seize my computers?) Will it help? (The government might know I have a hidden OS based on unexplainable web activity not traceable to my normal browser)

Most important question: Am I paranoid? (Well, before the leaks, this post would definitely be considered paranoid/tinhat, but now? What else is the government doing behind our backs?)

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Can someone at least try to acknowledge my previous post?


Originally posted by nobody1089

Tag (theory) was not closed.


Uh... Forgot to turn the Conspiracy off there...
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Originally posted by Wiimeiser
Can someone at least try to acknowledge my previous post?

Not much to say about it. Maybe they will?

/shrug



On a completely different note, Edward Snowden is a very, very sexy man. Just look at that hair, those glasses, that stubble... I'm swooning like a 16 year old girl.


Interesting this exact thing was reported on back in may 2006, I dont remember such an uproar back then

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Originally posted by BloodyToothBrush
Interesting this exact thing was reported on back in may 2006, I dont remember such an uproar back then


Do you have any source for that information, I would be interested to read it.

Also it probably because it was before the advent of social media. Back then the internet was only used in mainstream as an information source and it was an incredibly rare occurrence when you felt obligated to share personal information before.

To the majority of people, the fact that the government was spying on the internet wasn't that much cause of concern.


Source to my previous post. I should have included it then, sorry

USA Today

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I'm really not surprised at this news, do you really think the Government would never monitor the use of the Internet?

Also with Edward Snowden the fact that they want to capture him makes it look like he's telling the truth, think about it had they let him be and stated that what he is saying isn't true then that would have made people believe that the US isn't spying on our Internet use.
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Pretty sure the UK(might be wrong on that one) and canada have come out and said that they also spy on their country. Also USA and possible UK are spying on other European countries and they are getting pretty damn pissed, france wants to suspend trade with US because of it. I'm not trying to say thats the end of the world or anything but this is really causing a stir



as it should

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They probably don't. I'll admit right now I dont know as much about this topic as I should, but I dont think they have people going through every single persons internet activity in the united states. They dont have the man power. They could however and probably do, single people out who they are suspicious of.

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Worse case scenario is that they can dig though a person's internet use and cherry-pick "evidence" that the person they are targeting has malicious intentions, and use it against them in a court. Best case is that they only use data to confirmed suspicions and that they wont use it evidence.

Either way it is annoying that countries are doing stuff like this, but that's the problem with the internet, it's easy to write the wrong things on it and after you write them you can never truly erase them.


Yeah, the idea that the government now knows everything everyone has ever typed is a bit silly. All thats changed is that we are now aware that they have access to the information, and have for a long time. Not trying to say I'm ok with it though

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I have to wonder if they can determine someone's address from something like Facebook. My stepdad is a politically conservative Vietnam War veteran who tends to criticize the government on Facebook quite often. Recently, ours was one of the addresses "picked" to receive the very intrusive American Community Survey. Could he have been specifically targeted based on the political views he expresses on the Web? Hmmm....
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