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13 Reasons Why

Kinda surprised there hasn't already been a thread for this considering how big a splash it made last year.

13 Reasons Why is a Netflix series (directed by Selena Gomez) based on a best-selling book by Jay Asher. Both are about a teenage girl who commits suicide after a few unfortunate incidents with her friends/"friends" in high school and records tapes of her voice outlining why she did it.

I can certainly see why it's so controversial. I watched the first season a couple days after it came out and really couldn't for the life of me figured out how anyone involved thought it was a good idea to release it, but I guess it made good money because they made a season 2, stretching the plot even farther than the book.

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I haven't seen S2, but from what my friends have told me it's even worse than the original. I find that pretty shocking to be honest, as for me personally S1 was really a new low for any show I've ever seen (for many reasons, though at this point it's kind of late for me to write my own review on it).

Has anyone here seen it yet? I know opinions on the show generally vary greatly and it's hard to get a general consensus, so I'm curious as to what people here think. More specifically, would you consider the show or book to accurately represent suicide and mental health? Is it the kind of show you'd recommend to those struggling with such illnesses? Entertainment-wise, how does Season 2 compare to the original? Any thoughts or comments on either season are welcome.
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I just finished watching Season 2.

I really enjoyed Season 1. It was pretty intriguing to see how all the characters contributed to the main character's death. They all brought something different and interesting to the story. What I liked about the original premise was that each episode was centrally focused on one character and their tape, how they interacted with Hannah and did things which ultimately lead to her suicide. The last episode of Season 1 was particularly emotional and heart-wrenching and I thought it was well-done.

When I heard at had been renewed for a second season, I was skeptical because the first season had a pretty conclusive ending, and they'd be expanding on the story originally introduced in the book. I got what I was expecting. The second season was a lot less gripping and it lost a lot of the appeal the first one had. The courtroom scenes dragged on and got repetitive and didn't really hold my interest. The season seemed all over the place too, hitting way too many characters and subplots in one episode, and was a bit hard to follow. With the second season, they seemed to be making the show an extreme version of Degrassi.

One of the big controversies of this season was in the last episode with
Tyler's graphic rape.
. That was uncomfortable to watch.

The season ended on a cliffhanger so it seems like they want to leave it open for another.
Before anybody calls another person sick for enjoying this show, do keep in mind that:

• flaming is not allowed on the forums
• remember that for all intents and purposes, this is FICTION.

I personally have never seen nor heard of the show (I don't watch TV), but to those who plan to contribute/post in this, remember to keep those two points in mind before posting. That all being said, you are free to state that you don't like the show and why you don't like it. #tb{^V^}
Originally posted by Skewer
Before anybody calls another person sick for enjoying this show, do keep in mind that:

• flaming is not allowed on the forums
• remember that for all intents and purposes, this is FICTION.

I personally have never seen nor heard of the show (I don't watch TV), but to those who plan to contribute/post in this, remember to keep those two points in mind before posting. That all being said, you are free to state that you don't like the show and why you don't like it. #tb{^V^}

May I ask what exactly prompted this response? I don't see any indication of anyone calling someone sick/flaming someone in here and no reason to believe that anyone would.
I think it may have to do with the show getting polarizing reactions in general. A lot of people like it while others feel the subject matter is too intense.

Anyway, it's been renewed for a third season.

I feel the show is shifting toward more of a typical (albeit a bit more extreme) teen drama at this point now that they're moving away from the original plot.
Originally posted by Golden Yoshi
I think it may have to do with the show getting polarizing reactions in general. A lot of people like it while others feel the subject matter is too intense.
Generally this, you have no idea what anybody is going to say, and/or how one will react to a specific topic and quite a lot of people like to merge fiction with reality.

And then on the other side of the coin, you might have somebody who has actually been affected by the suicide of a family member or friend. It's already a controversial piece of a media to begin with that already has some people upset (Article Link), and they might not even be affected by suicide! Imagine somebody who actually has been, they might be heavily offended, or they might say something to "I think people should be aware of just how bullying can affect a person and drive them down this road." I know bullying is a pretty "petty" reason, but you know what they say, one ant bite hurts a bit, but a lot of them can kill you. All the little things build up.

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but meh.
I don't think I've ever seen someone call someone else sick for enjoying the show. Sure, people complain about the show and rightfully so, maybe they call the show sick but why would they ever call someone sick for enjoying it? Enjoying something is not something that you can be faulted for, it's not under your control, but the creators of the show can very well be faulted for creating a bad show.
I personally never watched anything past a few episodes, but I Hate Everything made a pretty good video about it. He pretty much dissects why they're doing it all wrong, and now I'm somewhat glad that I never ended up watching more of it. Scenes for shock value, having characters' personalities be completely defined by their problems, and inaccurate portrayals of mental illness were just a few major points that he made during the video. I couldn't tell you how accurate this is to how the show actually is, but it is a very detailed video.
Watched both seasons. The plot is pretty interesting and I appreciate some of the callouts it makes to common teen problems. I don't think season 2 was necessary though, unless they had written it a lot better. A bunch of it felt very shoehorned in (especially what was added to Hannah's story). Only some characters get a nice development, and some others get forgotten entirely; it just felt messy overall. The finale sucks cause it calls for a continuation, and a season 3 is not necessary.

I haven't taken the time to read what the hubbub over this show is about, but this is obviously a show that needs to be handled responsibly, and this is not just about the warnings at the start and end of the episodes. I personally haven't noticed any major slip-ups they made, but I'm not the one to judge these things best.
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